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Squirrel an animal heaven..

 
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*cazzmaraz*
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Squirrel an animal heaven.. Reply with quote

I ran over a squirrel today...and i wonder if there is like a squirrel heaven..where they can run an play and eat nuts all day...and other animals go when they die..

I was talking to jake on ctf a few minutes ago..and he says there cant be..that animals are nothing when they die because they dont know right from wrong..and they have no soul..HENCE they are nothing...

but they ARE something...and god made them o.O and they think abotu what they are doing so they must know stuff..and we as humans cant communicate with them..so how do we know if they are right from wrong!

I think that there is a squirrel heaven.. and there is a place animals go when they die...

do you o.O

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Squirrel an animal heaven.. Reply with quote

*cazzmaraz* wrote:
I ran over a squirrel today...and i wonder if there is like a squirrel heaven..where they can run an play and eat nuts all day...and other animals go when they die..

I was talking to jake on ctf a few minutes ago..and he says there cant be..that animals are nothing when they die because they dont know right from wrong..and they have no soul..HENCE they are nothing...

but they ARE something...and god made them o.O and they think abotu what they are doing so they must know stuff..and we as humans cant communicate with them..so how do we know if they are right from wrong!

I think that there is a squirrel heaven.. and there is a place animals go when they die...

do you o.O


Animals are not nothing but they are just bodys with no soul. they think on instinct and even the emotions they have are the shallow chmical reactions in their head.

There may be creatures and animals in heaven but they will not be the dead animals on this earth.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOU DONT KNOW THAT DANNY! TOU JUST DONT!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could they choose God?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

god made them?!?! so they would know him as there maker!...therefore..when we go to heaven maybe we get all our pets an stuff that have died in the past! ..or else there is a section of heaven marked "animal heaven only.."watch for falling nuts"

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh. I don't believe in animals going to heaven.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*cazzmaraz* wrote:
god made them?!?! so they would know him as there maker!...therefore..when we go to heaven maybe we get all our pets an stuff that have died in the past! ..or else there is a section of heaven marked "animal heaven only.."watch for falling nuts"


Do you have biblical evidence for the idea that they go to heaven? god made the trees .... is there a tree heaven?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there is no evidence of there being a heaven at all...technically..accept whats said in the bible or what not. ..i do have a question though...when people think of heaven they usually thinkg of everyone getting along gold roads and just like a home away from home here on earth right? Well what about our pets and such that we have had now? Its going ot be rather boring up in heaven and gods gonna have to provide food lol..unless he makes it MAGICALLY appear. o.O Entertainment for those up in heaven ..animals? pets?...so I take it that when we get to heaven and were bored..were gonna sit and talk about how much fun it is to sit and talk? In a way we learn from animals how to nurture and care. God gave them the ability to nurture and care did h e not? to be able to nurture and care for a loved one you have to have a heart soul etc. Therefore aniamals MUST know whats right from wrong or else they would eat eadch other up and not give a dang.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*cazzmaraz* wrote:
Well there is no evidence of there being a heaven at all...technically..accept whats said in the bible or what not. ..i do have a question though...when people think of heaven they usually thinkg of everyone getting along gold roads and just like a home away from home here on earth right? Well what about our pets and such that we have had now? Its going ot be rather boring up in heaven and gods gonna have to provide food lol..unless he makes it MAGICALLY appear. o.O Entertainment for those up in heaven ..animals? pets?...so I take it that when we get to heaven and were bored..were gonna sit and talk about how much fun it is to sit and talk? In a way we learn from animals how to nurture and care. God gave them the ability to nurture and care did h e not? to be able to nurture and care for a loved one you have to have a heart soul etc. Therefore aniamals MUST know whats right from wrong or else they would eat eadch other up and not give a dang.


When I think of heaven, I think of the golden roads and all that the Bible says heaven will be like. And heaven won't be boring...it won't be like earth though. I think we'll be too in awe of God and all of His glory to get bored. And...I don't know if we'll eat in heaven. I imagine so, but who knows? Only God.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah well not all people accept God.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Tis a shame.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Isa 65:17)
(2 peter 3:13)
(rev 21:1)

just thought I'd add a bit of spin to the debate!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Systematic systemiser wrote:
(Isa 65:17)
(2 peter 3:13)
(rev 21:1)

just thought I'd add a bit of spin to the debate!


^Gosh, now I gotta go dig up those verses...Tongue

Isaiah 65:17 wrote:
'For I will create a new heaven and a new earth; the past events will not be remembered or come to mind.'


....really? I've never heard of this before. So we're not going to be thinking about the earth we presently know when we're in heaven? How are we going to remember our testimonies of God's greatness, the reason we'd be in heaven in the first place?

2 Peter 3:13 wrote:
But based on His promise, we wait for new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness will dwell.


Alright...I can wrap my brain around that. Sorta.

Revelation 21:1 wrote:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea existed no longer.


Hmmm...interesting. I heard some people believed the heaven will be here on earth or something strange like that...I don't know.

Indeed Suity, you've added a spin here. Big Grin

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the added scripture...thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it is always helpful to have.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I neither confirm nor deny the possibility.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess god has away of comunicating with animals so he will know whather they have been bad or good in there lives they are gods creation after all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes hgowever I mean like some animals have to kill to live just like people so

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creation was under a curse after man's fall and Jesus sure didn't die for animals to be saved.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because they cant really understand

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